The Commander Thinks Aloud 2. Ultimatum 3. He agreed to make a recording with John and Sean, but right before they went in to record it, they had this heart-to-heart about what songs to choose:.
John had 30 songs to choose from and Sean had himself been working on songs based on Peter Buck demos, songs that Michael Stipe hadn't picked Peter would write REM records by going into his studio, record 15 songs, make a CD, and when he had 5 CDs, he would go to Michael and he would pick the ones he liked best, so there were a lot of really good songs that just didn't make it to REM songs.
That however felt more like a project for Sean and Peter. The problem was that Sean didn't play any instrument and relied more on John to learn all those Peter Buck songs, while John was more focused on his own songs. They had an uncomfortable conversation that set the tone for many years. It was John's first betrayal of Sean, because John wanted more to make a John Roderick record and suggested they could later make a Sean Nelson record.
Sean agreed. There is an argument to be made that John was being a mercenary and there is an argument to be made that John did the right thing. Out came the first Long Winters record. John was confident he could play the bass himself. The feeling that somebody placed an instrument in his hand and he would be able to play it gave him the feeling he could play anything now! The feeling of discovery, of "Let me do it, I'll figure it out" was very exciting.
They worked on it for months without any restrictions. Chris was trying to be a producer, but this was the first track record that he ever made, so he was learning this whole new genre and was contributing his advice just where it was needed.
It sounded contemporary, much less distortion guitar rock than he'd ever played before, more pianos and small broken toy instruments and keyboard. It was the genre that became Indy Twee , not that the record was the source material, but it was happening in the stew of that time. At the end John was ready to leave Seattle. He had a tough break-up with a girl, had been in Seattle for 10 years, had lived it's course and had a good friend in New York who told him to "throw some shirts in a small bag and get on a train to New York".
During this idyllic time in he wrote almost all of the songs of the second Long Winters record in this little railroad apartment in Spanish Harlem , would walk around in the city all day for miles and miles, trying to walk every street, living off the last money he had from Harvey Danger.
John stayed in New York during the whole summer and thought "This is where I belong". Over the course of the same period, Barsuk wanted to release the album and they had learned that if a band wanted to put a record out, they needed to go on tour and they need a strong touring band which would be a lot easier in Seattle than i New York, because they knew everybody in Seattle.
Going back to Seattle and getting the foundation of a band together was a good idea: Get a van and go out on tour. Once on tour it wouldn't matter where John lived and afterwards he would simply go back to New York. Seattle was just a temporary move to get his band up and running.
Chris Caniglia wanted to be part of the band, bid farewell to his girlfriend and the two went out to Seattle to put a band together. John wouldn't let him be the bass player, so he became the piano player. After they had flown out to Seattle, 9 days later the whole world changed and they felt a bit marooned in Seattle because it was not a good time to go back to New York.
Sean was pretty disinterested in the band. Sean Nelson was in the audience of their first show, John invited him on stage and he sang his parts flawlessly through the rest of the evening. He came to the next show as well and from that time on he just was in The Long Winters. He was still pretty famous and John wanted him to be in the band for at least a year, and not just coming and going. They went around in the Harvey Danger van, a Ford Econoline , because they didn't want to have a tour bus it had to be legit and Harvey Danger already had this tremendous van with This means The Long Winters were funded and supported by Harvey Danger and Sean Nelson in so many different ways: The money John used to make the record was his salary from Harvey Danger, Sean had produced the record, Sean was in the band, Harvey Danger provided the van.
Sean played the same roll for John that John had played for him previously: They went to interviews and radio stations together and Sean gave John somebody to talk to. They toured all around, finished the second Long Winters record and Sean and Michael stayed in the band even after the first year. Chris ended up leaving after a while, probably because John wouldn't let him eat raw tuna in the van. Thursday 27 February Friday 28 February Saturday 29 February Sunday 1 March Monday 2 March Tuesday 3 March Wednesday 4 March Thursday 5 March Friday 6 March Saturday 7 March Sunday 8 March Monday 9 March Tuesday 10 March Wednesday 11 March Thursday 12 March Friday 13 March Saturday 14 March Sunday 15 March Monday 16 March Tuesday 17 March Wednesday 18 March Thursday 19 March Friday 20 March Saturday 21 March Sunday 22 March Monday 23 March Tuesday 24 March Wednesday 25 March Thursday 26 March Friday 27 March Saturday 28 March Monday 30 March Tuesday 31 March Wednesday 1 April The punchline to this seemingly abstruse joke?
Time to take a bath! Time to cut my hair! Most of these tabs have previously been discussed in the Band Nerd! Delicate Hands. Bride and Bridle.
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